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Monday, March 18, 2013

Cougar MRAP vs Navistar MRAP

If the US Army's Cougar MRAP is a wolf, the US Department of Homeland Security's Navistar is more like your family pet dog.

The US Army is phasing out their Cougar 6x6 Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicle - and they're being transferred to the US Marine Corps.

Cougar MRAP
While the Cougar MRAP is far more survivable than the venerable HUMVEE, as you can see below, they don't hold up all that well against a roadside bomb. I suspect that is why they're going to the US Marine Corps. The Marines have a history of inheriting equipment from the Army. (LINK - Download a brochure)

Cougar MRAP vs Improvised Explosive Device (Iraq)

The US Department of Homeland Security has a far less capable MRAP as seen below. They currently have sixteen of these urban assault vehicles (not 2,700 as has been reported). (LINK - View a brochure)

Navistar MRAP - the choice of the Department of Homeland Security

MRAP vehicles are good in urban environments or in many desert environments, but they are so very heavy that they bog down easily in mud or in wet/forest environments. As with any piece of equipment, they have advantages and weaknesses. The weight of metal that protects them also acts against them in some situations, bogging them down. Neither can they operate in high urban threat environments where their opposition is armed with rocket propelled grenades (RPG-7) or other armor-defeating munitions, unless dismounted infantry moves through they area before they do and clears it of insurgents.

In most law enforcement situations, (zombie war scenario) where their opponents are untrained and/or lightly armed, the Navistar and Cougar MRAP's are fine - and they do represent a less mobile but far better protected choice than a Humvee.

Up-Armored Humvee - in many situations a better choice than an MRAP
HUMVEE ADVANTAGE vs Navistar

The Humvee handles much better on icy or slick roads, on muddy roads and on terrain that is difficult to negotiate (rocky, steep, etc). The Homeland Security Navistar MRAP is designed to move along America's paved roads and flat graded roads. The Humvee can cross rural bridges that the Navistar would collapse because of its weight (and end in the river). Escape from a Navistar that ended up on the bottom of a river would be difficult as people struggle to exit through the very narrow back door. And ten guys would be fighting to get through that door as water pours in. The Navistar's weakest point is its roof, which is less heavily armored that the flanks or the bottom. They don't expect anyone to throw an IED, drenched in adhesives, onto the roof or to have somebody sink an RPG into them from above (tall building or a mountain terrain environment). 

In SUMMARY
  • The Navistar is very effective in an urban environment where the zombies are armed with small caliber weapons and are not prepared to confront an armored vehicle. 
  • The Navistar's blind spots, weak(er) roof and vulnerability to IED's and rocket propelled grenades means that it can't operate in an urban environment without dismounted infantry who would have to clear an area that it would transit through.
  • The Navistar is a poor choice for a rural environment where the weight of the vehicle acts against it (ice/snow/mud/terrain). Zombies in the woods would pose a problem for the Navistar.








The Tilted Kilt - Orange CA (Review)

Tag Line: “A cold beer never looked so good.”®

Preparing for St. Patrick's Day
It's not Hooters, but the women who work there are just as pretty and by all accounts, the food tastes better. I have only been to the Tilted Kilt located at 1625 West Katella Avenue, Orange, CA.


After the fights, the UFC crew likes to swing by and insure that kilts are still tilted.

The atmosphere is fun and the Tilted Kilt gets huge marks for staff attitude. On St. Patrick's Day they had 150 waitresses on the property to insure that everyone received their drinks and snacks promptly. That's something you NEVER see at an Irish Bar on St. Patrick's but they pulled it off. 

I wondered how they did it, so I hung around and watched management's attention to detail, tweaking here and adjusting there (not kilts - the operation). They stayed on top of everything and didn't fall prey to the pattern many bars follow where management is more interested in being cool than in running the place.

My rating:  MUST VISIT - High Marks