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Wednesday, July 23, 2014

SA 17 (Grizzly) Seems to Work

NATO calls it the SA-17 Grizzly. The Russians named it the Buk (Means Beech tree) M2, and it downed the Malaysian airliner loaded with people last week. This week, they accounted for two Ukranian SU-25 fighter jets. 
(Fox News) More here.
SU-27 Flanker
What does that tell us? It suggests that the system not only works against slow flying commercial aviation lumbering along at 400 knots at 35K ft along a flight plan route, but they'll also shoot down one of the better Russian made front line fighters. Does the SU-27 look a bit like a US made F-15 to you?

The Buk M2 won't work well on stealth aircraft, but the Russians are hopeful that will be solved with the introduction of their Buk M3. Either system requires an initial radar lock to launch.


The Buk M2e (pictured here) mounts an impressive phased array radar tracking system. (NIIP 9S36 Passive ESA Engagement Radar) This makes it very difficult to launch an anti-radiation missile preemptively at the Buk M2 before it can get its shots off.

Then again, if you're shooting down unarmed civilian airliners, you need not fear any retaliation in the form of a HARM (AGM-88E) riding your own radar beam down to your location.

These missile systems are in play in Ukraine as Russia, which claims not to be arming their fifth column army, is moving ahead with their military annexation of Eastern Ukraine. Didn't President Obama draw a red line somewhere over there? 


8 comments:

  1. It also has IR and video... Pretty tough one to defeat...

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    1. Yeah. The only way to get past it is for it not to know that you're there in the first place.

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    1. Yes, it works very well against lumbering jet liners too...

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  3. So Fox News story this morning posted the picture of the Su-27 Flanker (roughly equivalent capabilities to the F-15) but the verbiage said the aircraft were Su-25 Frogfoots (roughly equivalent to the A-10). Anybody know what they really were, yet?

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    1. Fox corrected it and put up a picture of an Su-25 later in the day.

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  4. Ukraine doesn't have many operational aircraft. They'll have to be careful. I wonder if Obugger will provide them with jamming equipment? And that may not be a good idea 'cause it could end up in the hands of the Roosians anyway.

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    1. Maybe we need to "lend lease" equipment to Ukraine?

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