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Wednesday, October 14, 2015

More about Water on Mars

Cause and effect is sometimes best measured by first looking at the effect.



The Colorado River canyon, just above Grand Canyon (left), and Nanedi Vallis on Mars (right) pictured at the same scale shows how both canyons were formed by rivers that appear to have been approximately the same width. The river channel on Earth looks darker because it is filled with water, whereas Nanedi Vallis is dry and has been for quite some time.
Natasha Batalha, Shawn D. Domagal-Goldman, Ramses Ramirez, James F. Kasting. Testing the early Mars H2–CO2 greenhouse hypothesis with a 1-D photochemical model. Icarus, 2015; 258: 337 DOI: 10.1016/j.icarus.2015.06.016
"If we compare some of these valleys on Mars to what we know on Earth, for example the Colorado River, then they look to be the same width," said James Kasting, Evan Pugh Professor of Geosciences, Penn State. "We know how much water it took to carve the Grand Canyon based on five to six million years of rainfall, which is estimated to be about three to six million feet (of rainfall)."

In 2014, Kasting's group proposed a climate model showing Mars warmed by a dense atmosphere of greenhouse gases, specifically carbon dioxide and hydrogen. In a recent issue of Icarus, they report that using a photochemical model, they determined the possibility that there was a high percentage of hydrogen in the atmosphere. According to Batalha and Kasting, photochemical models simulate different aspects of the atmosphere using mathematics to determine the chemicals and how they react. They also set limits that define what is happening at the surface and in the atmosphere.

"The main focus of our work was how can you, and is it even possible to, get a 5 percent hydrogen atmosphere because 5 percent is a lot. Terrestrial planets don't usually have that big of a hydrogen envelope because it escapes pretty easily," said Batalha.

To get a high percentage of hydrogen in the atmosphere, they found that they need volcanic fluxes caused by plate tectonics. However, the researchers believe that while there is some evidence that Mars had plate tectonics, this theory remains controversial. Future work will look for evidence that supports their climate model without relying on plate tectonics. One possibility might show that hydrogen escapes more slowly into the atmosphere than currently predicted.

A competing hypothesis, called the impact hypothesis, claims that the high bombardment of asteroids on the surface of Mars led to a temporary warming, causing steam atmospheres that then condensed and produced rainfall that carved the valleys on Mars' surface. However, that would have generated only around 1,500 feet of water, while the Grand Canyon took millions of feet of water to form, according to Kasting.

Data gathered by NASA's Curiosity Rover, launched in 2011 and currently on Mars, suggests prolonged, standing liquid water was present in Gale Crater. According to Batalha, further evidence showing water stayed on Mars for tens of millions of years would support a warm early Mars while putting the impact hypothesis to rest.

"While Curiosity couldn't directly prove our hypothesis about a high hydrogen atmosphere, if you get millions of years of warmth, then you're driven towards hydrogen because we haven't been able to figure out any other way to create that warmth. All of the other greenhouse mechanisms fail in our models," added Batalha.



10 comments:

  1. This is interesting. Mars once had a climate, and it changed. Now it's gone. Did someone fight a war against it and kill it off?

    The current Commander-in-Chief might like to ponder the implications of that.

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    1. The Martian Army was clearly unable to effectively stop the subduction of water from the atmosphere into the soil. Any progressive will back me up. That is why it's so urgent for our military to have weather control as its top priority.

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    2. It's clearly the issue of our times. The Red Planet proves that.

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    3. The Pope and Obama would agree.

      So would Putin. Better that we fight the weather while he's reclaiming the old Soviet Union.

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  2. This is all very interesting. Were there SUVs on Mars in the past?

    An interesting corollary study might be to compare evidence for CO2 on Mars, as in carbonate rocks.

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    1. I think that it's been done. A lot of that is on-line in the form of studies. Mars isn't an insane carbon environment in the way that Venus is, naturally.

      Clearly, there were HUMMERs on Venus back before the place went bust.

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  3. And then they all came to Earth....

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    1. Different factions settled in San Francisco, Austin, Washington DC... and Mecca.

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  4. The big yellow one is the sun.

    Everybody knows that had the Martians listened to 97% of Martian scientists polled, they would still be there.

    BTW - is it me or does the Martian pic look like an elevated range…almost exact opposite in shape to the GC? Theory - our planets once bumped. Global Bumping? With substantial grant money, I will study this and report back the findings that I already believe.

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    1. Your princely pay is sufficient to support an entire Martian city...stop jonesing for grant money.

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