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Wednesday, December 7, 2016

75 Years Ago - This Morning

WH press secretary says WWII veterans should 
get over their ‘bitterness’ about Pearl Harbor attack.

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe is planning to visit Pearl Harbor, on the occasion of the 75th anniversary of the attack and I have no problem with that. However, the unprovoked, surprise attack on Pearl Harbor is something that we shouldn't ever forget. Barack urged us a couple of years ago to get over the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon and World Trade Center (and the aborted attack on the White House). 

It's not about getting over something and moving on. It's about recalling history without any politically correct, revisionist lens. People who can do that are willing to make plans to avoid the situation that made it possible to successfully attack Pearl Harbor or New York and Washington, DC.
The classic book on the attack on Pearl Harbor is "At Dawn we Slept" by Gordon Prange. 
One of the best books on the Battle of Midway is "The Shattered Sword" by Jonathan Parshall and Anthony Tully.
There is a move in the US and in Japan to remove the necessity for dropping two atomic bombs on the Japanese homeland, which ended the war. Bill O'Reilly and Martin Dugard deal with this issue appropriately in, "Killing the Rising Sun".  The way I see it, (a) it saved American lives and (b) the Japanese had it coming. They could have surrendered and chose not to after having been warned.

But that was in the future on December 7, 1941.


24 comments:

  1. Quite an anniversary. We'd better not forget and for sure, the Rising Sun didn't look too bright at the end of the day. Had it coming? Pearl Harbor says they did, I think.

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    1. Yes, they had it coming. For Pearl Harbor, for China, for Korea, and so forth. Their war crimes make the Nazis look tame by comparison. I am not diminishing the 6 million Jews, Gypseys and others that the Nazis murdered. I am not diminishing the vast losses on the Eastern Front in Russia's Great Patriotic war. But for sheer evil and sadistic torture on a very wide basis, it's difficult to eclipse the Japanese in World War 2.

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    2. q.v. Unit 731. Wikipedia (yes, I know) serves as a starting reference. Read the innocuously-titled section on "Activities". There is a reason the Japanese are hated in China, Korea, and east Asia generally, to this day.

      Forget any thoughts of apology, much less reparation. Officially, the Japanese deny they committed such atrocities, and it is not taught in their schools.

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    3. True. They're disliked in China, they're HATED with a vengeance in Korea. In fact, I think that's why the US never allowed the ROK to have nukes. There was the underlying fear that they'd light up Japan.

      I served as a liaison with the ROK SEALs at Chinhae (Near Pusan) and the animosity toward Japan is deep and enduring.

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  2. The Japanese culture was (and is) every bit as flawed as the Islamic culture. The way they treated their POW's reflects their character as a nation, and they treated them God awfully (the Bataan Death March, the Rape of Nanking).

    They certainly had the US nuclear attack coming to them. Deservedly so. And we won't forget.

    To this day, Japanese people consider themselves superior to all other humans. They are without a doubt the world's worst racists, other than the mullahs who run the jihadi movement.

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    1. And they don't allow Muslims, at least not many, into their country. Smart.

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    2. Fred is 100% correct.

      I'm not anti-Japanese. I'm seriously not. But we need to remember what was and what is.

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    3. Truth is not a happy medium.

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    4. People work hard to distort it for their own reasons, but it's important to shine a light on it.

      Don't shine a light on Bambi and Leather unless they're on stage...

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  3. "Get over it" is a fairly interesting response from a WH that has spent the last 8 years inflaming bitterness about a 150 year old wound in this nation. That's twice as old as the Pearl Harbor bitterness and one with which Barack has no personal connection whatsoever. Let's use, this day, one of his other quotes about anti-Trump demonstrators, and say to our veterans: "I would not tell them to be silent."

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    1. The First Amendment applies to veterans too. Not just to the Occupy freaks. That is completely lost on progs. They don't get it.

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  4. All Obie wants now it to be worshiped in his reaming years as being the first black... uh... mulatto president. And to teach all the wonders the Muslim faith has contributed to forming the US. That speech will last about a minute.

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    1. He's the most famous Mulatto in American history. Time won't eclipse that.

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  5. It's not about getting over something and moving on. It's about recalling history without any politically correct, revisionist lens. People who can do that are willing to make plans to avoid the situation that made it possible to successfully attack Pearl Harbor or New York and Washington, DC.

    Perfect, LL. Thank you.

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  6. Revisionist history doesn't work... And screw the administration. They weren't there, nor did they see best friends die...

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    1. Barack and his band of misfits were druggies rather than warriors. They behave accordingly.

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  7. My Dad and Father in law were both combat infantry, training in the Philippines for the invasion of Japan. My dad was drafted late in the war, in his late 20's, with three kids and a wife, he was building aircraft engines- he grew up in a mill town during the depression, poor enough to be running a trap line for money, and said the men in his boot camp were the roughest bunch he had ever seen. At that point in the war, they had scraped the bottom of the barrel, tipped it over and were digging out the muck under the rotten bottom to get bodies. My FIL came straight from VE day digging up mines and shooting Germans, straight across the USA right into a troop ship for Japan. So without the bomb, there is a strong possibility my wife and myself would never have been born. The POS apologists have never grasped the fact that by that time in the war, 99.99% of Americans would have nuked Japan to save just ONE US serviceman. Sow the wind...

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  8. Spent all day on the Iowa. We has some very nice, somber, ceremonies, and I was privileged to meet two Pearl Harbor Survivors.

    Brave men who fought WWII, and then returned home to build the USA into the finest country in the world.

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    1. The are indeed - the greatest generation.

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