sunset from behind the wire

sunset from behind the wire

Saturday, December 10, 2016

Saturday Summary

Hillary, meeting her public, working on the 2020 run.
Oh, NO!

I groaned when I began to write this. The Dem's wet dream is yet another Hillary run for the White House when she's 74. She clearly has old money, but would anyone donate new money to get her moving. Then again, they are throwing money at Jill Stein, so why not the Bitch of Benghazi?
(Fox News) A third presidential run -- after two grueling campaigns that both ended in defeat to a rival political sensation who captured the imagination of voters -- could be a stretch for the former secretary of state, senator and first lady.

But after a brief period of reclusion, Clinton is slowly but surely appearing more in public, and in ways that indicate a political and public future of some sort.

One clue that her team wants to keep its cachet with millennials is the viral sensation surrounding pictures of her spotted by her Chappaqua home -- in the woods, at the grocery store and elsewhere.
Maybe the next Congress will take up the matter of the Clinton Foundation and drive the stake into the vampire's chest once and for all...or at least until Chelsea Clinton runs for President. 

Red Tape - and Harbor Trout

Some of you have followed the White Wolf Mine project. I had no idea that an alternative septic tank design system was as involved as it is. Perhaps I can be forgiven my naive mindset. I'm a city dweller in an area where you just tap into the sewer line and begin flushing. The politics of septic design (you need a licensed designer), getting in line for a design, the soil sampling, the county involvement at all phases. Just the drip lines take up nearly a quarter acre. Then there are multiple redundant tanks, multiple filtering systems, and several hundred feet of PVC.  The county permitting process is Byzantine in the extreme, with multiple layers of inspection during the construction process to insure that a harbor trout doesn't break free.
An outhouse/privy/guest cabin is a lot simpler and a lot cheaper. 
I was told on day-one that the cost of the alternative septic system which the county mandates would be $25K to $30K. Now I have a glimmer why that is. 

I thought that maybe if I simply pandered to the local political cadre (see design - above right) that I might be able to get by without forking over THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS. The jury is still out on their response to my reasoned request.


The Value of Three Dimensional Thinking. 

The Vortex we live in.

The solar system moves through space at 828,000 km/hr. The Earth rotates around the sun at 70,000 km/hr.



18 comments:

  1. Septic systems: the EPA has their fingers in all of that, LL. Option 1. Pay the sons of bitches and move on with your life. 2. Fight them, wait for Scott Pruitt to assume the EPA directorship, might be a year or two but things will change.

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    1. I'm paying the money, Fredd. I don't want to sound like a cheapskate and I also don't want to pollute my own home (shitting in your own nest), but it sounds like overkill to me. And the cost of overkill is considerable as opposed to an outhouse.

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    2. Yes, I understand that you don't want to set it up like you were in a Third World country (like Italy or Spain), and just let the ooze run where it will. I absolutely agree that getting the job done adequately doesn't require all the ridiculous standards that these counties insist on. Costs for these systems have quadrupled in the last 25 years, but the efficiencies are roughly the same.

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    3. That's my understanding based on discussions with the revenant mandarins who design and build these disposal machines.

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  2. My BIL ran into the same thing on his summer home, had to put in a huge $$,$$$ "above" ground system. It left no room for the house as the river horseshoes around the property. We go up and have a big bonfire to burn in effigy the county planning commission and the eco crazies every chance we get. Bastards!

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    1. The White Wolf Mine, being on largely very rocky soil and bedrock requires a massive system - or so it was explained by the county officials who read tea leaves and cast chicken bones for answers (for a living). I don't know how many ponderosas will have to be hacked down to create this marvel of EPA efficiency but I'm guessing a couple dozen. It's irritating but there's not that much I can do about it. The soil sample confirmed that the system that the county mandates is the one for me. That and the rocks, trees, etc.

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  3. You don't have to crap in your own nest... you are an avid outdoorsman, so just trek out to a tree and dump a load. Nature will take care of it.

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    1. If I want a building permit, I also need the mandated septic solution. They are not saying that I can't crap in the woods and allow nature to manage the problem. What they are saying is that I must build this system and naturally the improvement to the property will be taxed.

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  4. Nice wolf infographic, and for sure, go with the outhouse (per picture), but reverse it so that the bloated bureaucrats get the lower deck. Just a thought.

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    1. If I submitted plans per your suggestion, I have a feeling that they'd be rejected by the county.

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  5. Our in-laws in Colorado who live up at 7400' in the Roosevelt National Forest have the same situation.

    They were VERY lucky a few years ago that the wildfires missed their "main" house. The septic field was intact and undamaged, but they did have to drill a new well, an approximate $15k expenditure.

    Unfortunately they lost their other four houses, the workshop/garage, and all their heavy equipment for the construction business they own.

    They had firebreaks twice the required size, and had all brush and vegetation cleared out around the houses for twice the required distance, but the fire still got them.

    Sometimes when Mother Nature she decides she wants back what was once hers, she just takes it....

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    1. I can only hope that my precautions against fire damage are adequate. The metal roof is a very important component.

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  6. A couple of thoughts. If you are willing to live with it, and the county accepts it, a composting system might be an option.

    Regarding fires. Assuming you are on the property when a fire nears, have a plan to start a backfire. Illegal? Probably. Somehow I think you have the skills to deal with the aftermath.

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    1. The county will not accept a composting system. The house will be quite large and if I plan to get insurance (and I do), it needs to be fully permitted. They have me by the stacking swivel.

      The area has been cleared of brush, and that's what burns the worst. It's ponderosas, a few pinions and rock. The monsoon that hits the Mogollon Rim between July 15 and early September deals with most of the more severe fire season that other areas experience. They received 8 inches of rain last summer, with that daily afternoon cloudy build up that is common to most high mountain areas. There are still fires up there, but the monsoon has helped keep the area intact.

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    2. Any chance of building a cistern for emergency water storage and fire protection reserve? A genset and pump could be useful.
      I put a standing seam metal roof on our house and shop for fire and water proofing. Laid it myself, with a couple of friends- 9/12 pitch. it is not too bad as long as the roof is not cut up into too many different planes. Of course, the contractors charge per square foot, so the guy with a simple roof is gravy for them....
      I wish I had put metal on for siding also- it really cuts maintenance down. And as long as a guy does not mind a barn type look, it is OK.
      It was actually rather fun, building a house. My wife and I designed it, did the foundation, framing, siding, roofing and interior. farmed out the insulation plumbing drywall and electrical. Hell of a lot of work, but also a lot of equity. and memories.

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  7. I figured Killary didn't mean it when people were saying she was done with politics. >:-/
    Good luck with the septic system. Makes me glad they couldn't backdate the requirement.

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  8. But White Wolf, just eat them.

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