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Tuesday, June 6, 2017

A Few Questions for USGOV

Is the Muslim Brotherhood a Terrorist Organization?

It hasn't been so designated in the US as of yet. The Obama Administration shielded them and worked to assist them in their effort to take over Egypt - but the Brotherhood was thwarted by the Egyptians.  (If you're tired of politics, you can watch this non-documentary on things Egyptian)
(Fox News) There’s a battle inside the Trump administration over what to do about the Muslim Brotherhood, the group at the center of Monday’s pivotal decision by Saudi Arabia, Egypt, the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain to cut ties with Qatar over allegations it supports terrorism.
Qatar has dumped a lot of money on K Street to buy lobbyists to plead their case and it worked during the years of Obamanation when the Clintons (who are said to have socked over a billion dollars in a Qatari bank) and Obama were for sale in a pay-to-play game that is familiar to everyone inside of the Beltway.

President Trump asked Arab nations to police themselves two weeks ago. Now they are doing it. Qatar has long been considered a supporter of terrorism by several key American allies including Egypt, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.
The camps inside the White House, break down to two groups: On one side is a political group led by Chief Strategist Steve Bannon and the other side is led by National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster and Defense Secretary Jim Mattis. Generals McMaster and Mattis are said to be concerned about America’s deep military commitment to Qatar, where the U.S. operates a key airbase; Bannon is said to want to push for an official designation of the Muslim Brotherhood as a Foreign Terrorist Organization.
When asked if the U.S. is considering changing its position, a State Department official told Fox News: “The Muslim Brotherhood is not a Foreign Terrorist Organization.”
There are factions of the Muslim Brotherhood who do not support terrorism, while others rabidly do. Targeting the entire Brotherhood, may be a mistake. However, Qatar clearly falls within the sphere of influence of the radical Brotherhood as does Hamas, which is a spin-off of the Muslim Brotherhood. Muslim Brotherhood affiliates in Yemen and Egypt are clearly terrorist operations.

USGOV has tasked Treasury to determine which factions of the Brotherhood are supporting terrorism.

US "Ops Town" at at Al Udeid Air Base, Al Rayyan Province, Qatar 
It's interesting to see the US (Democrat Party) groups call what Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates "Islamophobic"

The remnant of the Obama Administration supports Qatar. So do many who date back to the Bush Administration and the days not all that distant when USGOV pumped billions into a joint intelligence center, air force base, etc. in Qatar...

The Muslim Brotherhood is generally regarded as the ideological forerunner of both al-Qaeda and ISIS. Saudi Arabia knows that. So does Bahrain, Egypt and the UAE. It's why they are politically isolating Qatar as a form of cancer. The White House is split on it (why?). 

What do you think?


14 comments:

  1. LL - I have a hard time keeping track of all the different muslim sects and groups, so I take the path of if the left is for something it would be best if I opposed it.

    I thought first about you when they arrested that 25 year old for leaking documents. Explain to us lowly people how someone like that obtains top secret classification. She worked for a contractor, but wouldn't the classification come from the government? I'm confused. Help us out.

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    1. She wasn't lowly. She worked for a company that subcontracted to the NSA. The scope of her work required that she be given access to classified material so her employer required that she have a security clearance. In the process of obtaining the clearance and access (two separate things) she signed documents, swearing that she would not disclose information on penalty of prosecution and imprisonment. The process is called being "read-in" to a classified program and it's not the stroke of a pen, it's a process of briefings, etc. so it's all 'knowingly' on the part of the person being given access. It's not a lowly thing. It's a position of honor, trust and profit (she was paid to do the work).

      Breaking fealty (an old Common Law concept) makes her a felon. The penalty upon conviction is imprisonment and a fine or both. It's the same thing that Snowden did but he escaped to Russia (through a circuitous route) and she was apprehended before she could flee. Doing it in time of war means that you can be executed. The fact that we have an on-going "war on terror" could technically mean that she'd be ended - but I doubt that. Thirty years on ice instead. She'll get out when she's 60.

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    2. Thank you, LL.

      But wouldn't the contractor want to be more careful about who he was hiring or did they just expect the government to do their job for them? And doesn't this reflect poorly on the contractor?

      I was referring to myself (and others like me) as being lowly without the advanced (and trusted) information that a more connected person (you) could supply. I know you've been in many important positions and know waaaaay more than we do.

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    3. It's been a while since I was cleared, Adrienne, but as I recall, the contractor requests the clearance, and the government runs the background investigation and decides if the clearance is justified based on their findings.

      BUT....things have changed quite a bit over the years. When I was first cleared in the 1980's, the background check was quite extensive. The FBI and DIS interviewed my neighbors, relatives, and former employers. When I got another clearance in the 2000's, all I had to do was fill out am extensive set of forms, swear that everything on them was true, and POOF!, I was granted a clearance again. I'm not sure if having a previous clearance cut me some slack, or if the process had been loosened up. I suspect the latter.

      I'm sure LL is far more up-to-date on the process than I am, but I was amazed at how fast it sailed through compared to the first time.

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    4. Thanks, Drjim. That was what I suspected.

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    5. And she was prior military, if I remember correctly. Which means she got her clearance in the military.
      I hope she ends up in Leavenworth.

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    6. DrJIM/Adrienne - The scope of the background investigation is dependent on the level of clearance. A CIA clearance requires a special background investigation (conducted by CIA's Office of Security) and a polygraph. I don't know how NSA handles things, but given the problems that they're facing, my sense is that they need to change how they do business.

      LindaG - Leavenworth at hard labor.

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    7. I had a Secret clearance at Hughes with "special access", and "just" a Secret clearance at Boeing.

      I suspect the "special access" part of my Hughes clearance caused the FBI and DIS interviews with most of the people I've known and worked with prior to that.

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  2. I don't know about the terroristic Muslim Brotherhood but I do know that Qatar owns a massive source of nat gas which it shares with the Iranians. (North Field)

    There's also an irony in punishing Qatar for promoting Jihad, which it does to the tune of billions, when unscathed Saudi Arabia does the same to the tune of even more billions.

    Speaking of billions, maybe the Clinton cash will get frozen. Please.

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    1. Saudi Arabia is said to have dried up the flow of cash to Wahhabists (such as bin Laden). There are other Wahhabists who have their own family money (such as bin Laden). It's complicated.

      Don't hold your breath for the Clintons to be separated from their billions. They know where the (cough) bodies are buried.

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  3. Thank you for the update, LL.

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    1. You're welcome. With all of the hokum surrounding the corrupt, elite, smug mainstream media's lying attacks on President Trump, there is a vacuum where other news is concerned. It leaves Americans without a perspective that they need. I try to provide an objective spin on things.

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    2. And, as usual, you do a great job, LL.

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