sunset from behind the wire

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Sunday, November 8, 2009

Are Muslims Hasan's Victims?

The day after the horrible tragedy occurred at Ft. Hood (and I'm not going to recount the grizzly details here), the BBC headline ran, "Shooting Raises Fears For Muslims In US Army". I found that an interesting perspective and didn't read the article because I was concerned for the safety of my computer if I did (window near). 13 innocent non-Muslims and one non-Muslim unborn child were dead. MAJ Hasan, the Muslim who shot them was alive in the hospital. 14-0 ratio.

There is a disconnect between the mass murder of fourteen innocent people and the immediate hypothetical that the murder would somehow create Muslim victims. Or am I the only one who feels this is a way WEIRD way to view this situation?

This skewed way of thinking is manifest in another bizarre theory that is floated in the mainstream media continually.  There are plentiful articles that maintain that Christianity and Judaism are just as violent as Islam. Really? Not from my perspective. If you want to go back to the crusades about a thousand years ago, you might have a point. I'd accept your argument. Today? No.

Barack Hussein Obama, the Black Liberation Theologist with the Islamic name and the Marxist dreams of his father on his mind who is commander-in-chief of the US Military seems to harbor the same concerns, thus apologies that are legion for America's perceived sins to the rest of the world for deeds done wrong.

The United States and much of the world which includes Russia, China, the EU, etc. is in a war with radical Islam and we have been in that war for quite some time. Many soldiers of the United States have been killed by radical Islamists. The photos (left) of Major Nidal Hasan, dressed in Islamic garb, shopping on base illustrate his personal disconnect between the deluded jihadists world he lives/lived in and the insensitivity of his actions. Would this alone be enough for another soldier shopping at the Base Exchange justify somebody ripping off his arm and beating him over the head with it? If I was on the jury, I'd say, "yes".

It's time for American Jews (many of whom are liberal and think Barack Hussein Obama is a fine president) to decide who their enemies are. It's time that we exercise intolerance of jihadists in the ranks of the US Military. If Muslims feel that my sentiments are insensitive, I don't care.

Just My View:

(1) The United States is at war with Islamic elements who practice murder as their stock in trade. Murder becomes their faith.

(2) Muslim people's right to freedom of religion does not extend to military service in the United States  when their core beliefs call for murder of United States soldiers/sailors/airmen.

(3) It is not discrimination to deny that service where evidence exists that individuals key religious beliefs  are jihadist.

ACLU types, take me on.


  1. LL, my dad used to have a saying (he had a bunch of 'em):

    "If you're looking for an argument, pick a different subject." ;-)

    I totally agree with you here. I think the US military -- and the government in general -- must come to realize that by their own rules, they are allowing an entire people filled with hatred, to hide behind the shield of religion ... and inflict great harm to Americans from behind that shield.

    These "rules" must change. We will not be able to recognize the enemy until we the people completely reject the entire moslem model. We must force the moslems to identify the "extremists" within their group and deal with them ... before they can ever hope to deal with us. My stand continues to be that "islam" is simply inconsistent with a relatively free society like we enjoy in the United States. The so-called "extremists" are woven into the fabric of the islamic faith. They are no different than the so-called axis powers of the WWII era. I emphasize: NO DIFFERENT! Sure, the ridiculous liberals will start with the issue-confusing and wedge-driving, but at the end of the day, it was a terrorist act.

  2. If, as an example, my government decided to take violent action against another people or nation, then I and others would protest, speak out against that atrocity - "NOT IN MY NAME!". Ultimately left and right wing can argue until we are blue in the face about the justification of tarring all members of a religion with the same brush but I believe peace-loving Muslims have to stand up and demonstrate against those who act immorally. That would be a great step towards reconcilation.

    I have good friends who are Muslim and they are greatly saddened by what happened at Ft Hood. They feel deeply for the victims of the massacre and their relatives but also fear revenge attacks. They are good people, like many other Muslims.

  3. Muslims, at least many if them, seem to me to be like liberals. Only they have rights and what everyone else does is wrong.

    A phrase overheard when I was fighting crime and suppressing evil: "You, shut the fuck up. I have my rights."

  4. Cambridge Lady - I think you hit on a key point. If Muslims want to be known as a people of peace as opposed to crazed jihadists, they must take responsibility for their lunatic fringe and at least show SOME good faith effort toward policing themselves. We haven't seen much of that. The attitude to date seems to be one of, "well if he wants to be a jihadist/murderer of innocent people, that's HIS business." If they want to be painted with the same brush, that's a good tactic.

    WoFat - There does seem to be a sense of entitlement among many Muslims based on the fact that they are Muslims (and no other criteria). It goes a long way toward creating friction - and then they're surprised when there is a backlash.

  5. Libertarian - Freedom of Religion is fine. When that religion translates to political action that results in homicide, the religion (in that case) stops being a religion and looses that Constitutional protection in my opinion.

    I am disappointed that no ACLU types have come onto the blog to defend Major Nidal Hasan.

  6. LL - I agree with the additional step that islam is not a religion. It is and always has been a shield. Sorta like scientology, only with AK-47s instead of "E" meters.

    CambridgeLady - the "peace loving" moslems you think exist should have taken control of the "extremists" long ago, but they did not. This inaction alone speaks volumes. Now we the people need to control things, and we need to do so without the enemy ID problems liberals are counting on.


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